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 Post subject: Dyer Trail Update ! - MISTRIAL AGAIN !
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:12 pm 
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http://www.kswo.com/story/16591325/dyer-case-ends-in-mistrial-again
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Dyer Trail Update !

DUNCAN, Okla. – Shortly after testimony started today in the trial of Charles Dyer, accused of sexually abusing a 7-year-old girl, the judge declared a mistrial.

The reason? The judge ruled that the district attorney's office made inappropriate contact with a few of the jurors. The DA had sent a survey to them last week asking their opinions on how a previous case they had been chosen for was conducted, which is a standard procedure.

Even though the content had nothing to do with the dyer case, the judge felt it could "potentially" impact the jurors.

The surveys are normally sent after the jury term ends, not during it. And this impropriety became known at the end of the first break around 10:45 a.m. today. When court reconvened after lunch, Dyer's attorney asked for a mistrial and the judge granted his request.

Today, around 3 p.m., you could see prosecutors and defense attorneys lugging their boxes full of case files out of the courtroom and just hours after they had delivered opening arguments and began hearing testimony.

During the first break, someone informed the judge that members sitting on Dyer's trial had received mail from the Stephens County DA's Office. The judge told the courtroom, a staff member mailed the letters to 39 jurors on Jan. 20, who had sat on three jury trials last week. Now, two of them are on Dyer's panel and one as an alternate.

The judge also said he did not think the content of the letters and surveys pertained to Dyer's sexual abuse trial, but that in the end it could potentially sway the jury.

The judge stressed it was not the jury's fault, and that this should not have happened. And the prosecutors themselves did not know about the mishap until this morning. In fact, prosecutors had just started questioning their first witness, the mother of the alleged victim, when the trial the request for a mistrial was set in motion.

Now this is the second mistrial on the same charge for Dyer. The previous one came in April, when the jury was deadlocked and unable to reach a verdict. Prosecutors have already set the date for yet another re-trial. This one is scheduled for April 16.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:42 pm 
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wtf??? when will it end?!?!?! they just keep going and going until they get blood! I am glad he got the mistrial but the DA needs to back off already. Give the man his life back!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:53 pm 
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yea thats messed up seriously now everyone for the rest of his life are going to hound him just like they did oj

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:30 pm 
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he's not still sitting in prison is he?

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Yea, without a bond. He skipped his court date after someone burned his house down...he lost all of his records and everything.

Search around here and you will find the rest of the story.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:42 pm 
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after 3 mistrials its thrown out right?


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Well maybe this gives his new lawyer more time to improve his case. Glad he is a good one this time. The last lawyer wouldnt have done a thing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:58 am 
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Maybe some one will take this case pro bono publico? If i were an attorney id jump on this case for free. Anyone in that area is crazy not to help. They would be famous someday and be known in history as a great person and freedom fighter. This is great news, I cant seem to find anything anywhere else on the web about it though.

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 Post subject: Re: Dyer Trail Update ! - MISTRIAL AGAIN !
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Aside from on going attorneys fees a miss trial is a good thing. Its not a conviction, and it gives the chance to continue the fight another day! I see this as good news.


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Why are their not a 1000 patriots forcibly freeing our brother in arms right now? Why are we all such big talkers while we sit around and do nothing? If dyer is truly a POW then we are at war. And if we are at war why are we not fighting? We sit and we let the government raid and attack and arrest our comarades and violate their rights, and then we get online a bitch and moan about it and talk tough about how we'll fight them if they come for us etc and then continue to try to do things politically when we all know that it will never work. Its like we're a school kid who's a black belt, yet we let the bully beat us up everyday and take our lunch money, and then go complain to the principle about it, who never does anything because the bully is the star QB. Are we so fat and lazy and passive here in america that while dozens of other countries fight actual revoultuions against their governments we write letters and blog? disgusting.

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Jgrimm, in my opinion, its because there is no leader and no unity. No communication, no commitment. All that means no real movement.


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JGrimm, a militia needs someone to be accountable to. A militia needs a committee of safety. A civil governing body to decide these things. A leaderless movement brings about just what this site does...nothing. I want J4P released and back to happiness too, but every state and every militia needs leadership, like a Committee of Safety.


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Jgrimm, in my opinion, its because there is no leader and no unity. No communication, no commitment. All that means no real movement.


Ive been saying this.

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I dont know this guy but frome the videos online he seems GOOD.J4P needs one of 2 things: An firing squad if he is guilty( NEVER touch a kid) or a fire team( for rescue) just my thoughts no offense

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BACKUP wrote:
TENNESSEEPATRIOT1 wrote:
I dont know this guy but from the videos online he seems GOOD.J4P needs one of 2 things: An firing squad if he is guilty( NEVER touch a kid) or a fire team( for rescue) just my thoughts no offense


An investigation was never done. Valerie, the ex wife has an uncle who is a class 3 (the worst level) sex offender. His name is James Hakie (I have proper spelling on file)....he was never questioned and yes he had access to the child when J4 was still in the service. This man was convicted of harming 3 young children and more, so...why did J4P get charged?

Monday behind round 3 of the abuse charge, a third trial. Lets get ourselves to Duncan, OK to show support, inside the court room, with our best behavior. Thanks



Death to child molesters & I don't know J4P but I know that man by looking at him even wouldn't do something like that!

It just cracks me up on how these politicians & even Tony Blair can molest children or TSA groping children but if you pat your son on the butt for a good hit in baseball,they'll think you've touched your child!
Then all these pedophilers don't get sent to general population but only have to register to get their picture put in local tribunes!

They're just doing all they can to keep a true Patriot of the Constitution down & that has served this country & it's just disgusting!

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livingstranger wrote:
Jgrimm, in my opinion, its because there is no leader and no unity. No communication, no commitment. All that means no real movement.

add the fact that we got a bunch of guys who would rather fight each other than fight the beast running around lobbing accusations at each other. its quite disgusting. thats why I took a vacation from the movement.


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clinging Texan wrote:
livingstranger wrote:
Jgrimm, in my opinion, its because there is no leader and no unity. No communication, no commitment. All that means no real movement.

add the fact that we got a bunch of guys who would rather fight each other than fight the beast running around lobbing accusations at each other. its quite disgusting. thats why I took a vacation from the movement.



militia, by its very nature, does not lend itself to having one or even a few select "leaders". In fact, I think even on this site, "leaderless resistance" is a term that Ive seen used. In one way, that is our biggest strength, we are an idea, not a cult of personality, and the loss of any one prminent figure does limited if any damage to our movement. The flipside of that, and our weakness, is that there are going to be many colorful personalities that clash. For example, the very public and nasty fued over the net between mike vanderbough and christian keordin. Ive also heard of fire teams splitting up because of personality conflicts etc


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clinging Texan wrote:
livingstranger wrote:
Jgrimm, in my opinion, its because there is no leader and no unity. No communication, no commitment. All that means no real movement.

add the fact that we got a bunch of guys who would rather fight each other than fight the beast running around lobbing accusations at each other. its quite disgusting. thats why I took a vacation from the movement.


Amen to that


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clinging Texan wrote:
livingstranger wrote:
Jgrimm, in my opinion, its because there is no leader and no unity. No communication, no commitment. All that means no real movement.

add the fact that we got a bunch of guys who would rather fight each other than fight the beast running around lobbing accusations at each other. its quite disgusting. thats why I took a vacation from the movement.



militia, by its very nature, does not lend itself to having one or even a few select "leaders". In fact, I think even on this site, "leaderless resistance" is a term that Ive seen used. In one way, that is our biggest strength, we are an idea, not a cult of personality, and the loss of any one prminent figure does limited if any damage to our movement. The flipside of that, and our weakness, is that there are going to be many colorful personalities that clash. For example, the very public and nasty fued over the net between mike vanderbough and christian keordin. Ive also heard of fire teams splitting up because of personality conflicts etc


That's why militias need Committees of Safety. Without leadership there is no accountability, thus making militias rogues who can rob, steal, and pillage, nothing more than war lords. The idea that the militia can storm DC with arms will do nothing but turn the people against us. Guerilla tactics is our only chance, just like the militias of 1776. CoS keeps the militia accountable to the community and the Constitution. Its apperant most people on here have no idea what it would take to spark the 2nd revolution, honestly I'm still unclear to that. It wouldn't take a first shot, because if that were true Rand Weaver would have started it. Its leadership we need, leadership accountable to the Constitution, the community, and militia. The militia needs to accountable to the Constitution, the CoS, and the community. Its tied together.


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That poor man. Can you imagine what his life will be like even WHEN he is found not guilty? He will be judged and harrassed by everyone who can't see the truth. I hope it all goes over soon and he will always remember he has his militia family to fall back on.


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